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	Gerald: Pajer Name Origin Hello from Michigan in America. My grandmother came from Vencsello (now Gavavencsello). Her parents were Pajer Konrad (1837-1892) & Vinnai Erzebet(1845-1906). I am trying to find out the name of Pajer Konrad's parents. I also wish to find out if he had any brothers or sisters. The Roman Catholic Church Records for Vencsello is missing some important dates for me to find this out. Does anyone have a Pajer connection to Vencsello? Looking for some distant relatives. Does anyone know the origin of the name Pajer? Did this name come from Germany in the 1700s? Any information on PAJER would be great. Thank you		2006/09/16, 16:25:39 #: 200609634 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Pájer: Re: Pajer Name Origin Kedves Pájerfamily ősei! Az én nagy és dédszüleim is Vencsellőről származnak. Mi is római katolikusok vagyunk.Szüleim Rakamazon laknak, de én most Egerben dolgozok. Apai nagybátyám 1956-ban kivándorolt Canadába, és Ő és népes családja Windsorban élnek.Most nyáron hazajöttek, és az ő javaslatára írok Önnek. A lányának van email címe:mpajer -k-u-k-a-c- cogeco -p-o-n-t- ca Az én dédnagymamám neve:Vinnai MArgit:)) Nagyon örültem az ÖN levélének és bízom abban hogy valamire jut az őseit keresve. Pájer Andrea		2007/07/09, 13:52:56 #: 200707402 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	kisabeth: Re: Pajer Name Origin Dear Pajer relative, I am so sorry but I cannot write this email in Hungarian language. Please tell me more about your Pajer ancestors from Vencsello. I live 30 miles only from Windsor, Canada Thank you Gerald Kisabeth Canton, Michigan Computer Translation (no good) Kedves Pajer rokon , Én tehát szomorú de ÉN nem tud ír ez elektronikus levél magyarul nyelv. Legyen szíves mondja meg hogyan több körülbelül -a Pajer ősök -ból Vencsello. ÉN él 30 mérföldek egyetlen -ból Windsor , Kanada Köszönöm Muskátli Kisabeth Beszállásol Michigan		2008/01/28, 21:26:02 #: 2008012039 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	KEREKES SÁNDOR: Re: Pajer Name Origin dédszülőm volt pajer borbála. nagyapám baffaloban halt meg 32 évesen. JAVASLATOM A KÖZSÉG POLGÁRMESTEI HIVATALT KELL MEGKERESNI .DR. KARAKÓ LÁSZLÓ POLGÁRMESTERT. KERESZ MAMÁM PÁJER MARGIT VOLT ÉS ROKANAI ÉLTEK AMERIKÁBAN.. SOK SIKERT ÉN NÉMETÜL JÓL BESZÉLEK. VINNAI MIHÁLY VOLT NAGYNÉNÉM FÉRJE,NEKIN SSOK TESTVÉRE VOLT ÉS AMERIKÁBA IS MENTEK. KEREKES SÁNDOR. BUDAKESZI LAKOS, DE VENCSELLÖN SZÜLETTEM ÉS HAZAJÁROK.		2008/10/13, 19:43:29 #: 200810542 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Gerald Kisabeth: Re: Pajer Name Origin To Sandor Kerekes, do you have more information on your great grandmother Pajer Borbala? When was she born approximately? Who were her parents? Did she have any brothers or sisters? My grandmother was born in 1870 in Vencsello & died in Michigan in 1952.She had several sisters & brothers. She had a sister named Margit and a few nieces named Margit. What was your great grandfather's name who died in Buffalo, New York at 32 years old? Do you know of a Pajer Kereszely, born 1890 & died in 1955. He married Vinnai Marigitot in 1902 in Vencsello. I would like to know more about any Pajer & Vinnai families from Vencsello.		2008/10/15, 18:05:42 #: 200810654 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	pajera: Re: Pajer Name Origin Dear Gerald Kisabeth! I know of a Pajer Keresztely, born 1890 & died in 1955. He married Vinnai Marigitot in 1902 in Vencsello.My great grandfather and grandmother!!!They have got 2 boy:István and Gyula.Gyula live is in Canada,Windsor.He's daugther email:mpajer& -k-u-k-a-c- cogeco -p-o-n-t- ca István died in 1995.He's my grandfather:) Nice to meet You!		2008/12/16, 23:25:38 #: 200812695 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Gerald Kisabeth: Re: Pajer Name Origin It was so nice to receive an email from a fellow Pajer. I have been researching the Pajer/Vinnai families for some years now & am ready to complete my Dobozy/Pajer History Book. I have some cousins who have also been researching the Pajer name in Hungary. My wife & I are very excited as we will make our first trip to Hungary and visit the villages of my grandparents and Gavavencsello is included. I am most curious about the parents of your Keresztely Pajer. On the church record it lists only his mother as Borbala Pajer born 1868. My grandmother's name also was Borbala Pajer & she was born in 1870 but immigrated to America in 1892. There is some speculation that my Borbala Pajer was the same person as your Borbala Pajer but I doubt it as my grandma had 10 children (in America) and returned to Vencsello to visit twice. Surely, she would have brought your Keresztely Pajer with her, don't you think? I have included a copy of the film. I am also sending a copy of this posting to the granddaughter at the email address you had posted. Perhaps she can share some information. There was also a Borbala Pajer (her father was Peter Pajer) who married a Jozef Spier (his parents were Janos Spier & Erzsbet Berks) on July 8, 1891. Could this be your Borbala Pajer? I live only 25 miles from Windsor, Canada in Canton, Michigan. It would be very nice to meet the Pajer sons. I would really like to know more of you and your family and if you wish to share information that would be great. Gerald Kisabeth Canton, Michigan Az üzenethez ez a kép is kapcsolódik. Az eredeti méretben történõ megtekintéshez kattintson a képre!		2008/12/17, 00:48:13 #: 200812701 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	MI Genes: Re: Pajer Name Origin On a side note to your Dobozy/Pajer ancestry....would Bertha (Dobozy) Kisabeth be your relation? I think that this Dobozy line ties into my research on the Szwajkowski family by way of Bertha's brother, Kenneth. I also show that Charles & Bertha (aka: Borbala) Dobozy, and two of their daughter's (Helen & Irene) are buried in the St Stephen's Catholic Cemetery, in close proximity to the Szwajkowski's Have been trying to located the Dobozy's in the census enumerations but cannot find them through the online indexes...missing the 1900 and 1930 enumerations for the senior Charles and Bertha. Since his headstone shows he died in 1930, he may not have been in that year, but I would think that Bertha would be out there somewhere. If you can provide any insight to their location and how I can find them in the census, I would be greatly appreciative. Thanks		2009/01/06, 17:09:48 #: 200901578 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Gerald KIsabeth: Re: Pajer Name Origin Yes, my mother was Bertha (Dobozy) Kisabeth. She passed away in 2002 at the age of 92. Her parents were Charles & Barbara (Pájer) Dobozy. My mother's brother was Ken Dobozy, married to Rose Szwajkowski. What is your relationship to the line? I am in the process of completing my Dobozy/Pájer Family History Book. I hope to have it finally completed in a few months. I have had some delays for the past few years (illness, deaths, further Hungarian research, church records etc..... But I am back in full force. My Dobozy grandparents traveled back to Hungary at least twice since they were married in Duquesne. Pa in 1892 with 2 of their children born in Hungary. Grandpa died in 1930 & there is no record of Barbara & son Andy fo the 1930 census. They may have been living with the oldest son Charles & wife Vilma in Detroit's DelRay section near the railroads where he worked. And we can't find them either! We have searched thouroughly in the 1930 census to no avail. My mother and a few of her siblings were living with sister Mary (Dobozy) Gray in Plymouth at the time. As far as the 1900 census the whole family was in Hungary where son John was born in January 1900 in Vencsello. Mary was also born in Vencsello, Hungary in 1909 when they returned. I'd like to hear from you and your connection to Aunt Rose & Uncle "Blue." my address is geraldkisabeth -k-u-k-a-c- hotmail -p-o-n-t- com Gerald Kisabeth Canton, Michigan USA		2009/01/08, 19:15:15 #: 200901756 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	KEREKES SÁNDOR: Re: Pajer Name Origin DÉDNAGYIMNAK VOLT FIU TESTVÉRE ,KETTŐ IS. EGYIK DÉVALD PÉTERNÉ APUKÁJA VOLT,MÁSIK PÁJER NAK TÖBB FIA SZÜLETETT. NAGYAPÁM PRIKSZ JÓZSEF BAFFALÓ BAN LETT ELTEMETVE. KERESEM HOGY VALÓBAN HOL. TALÁN A NÉMET -FRANCIA TEMETÖBEN. ÖLELÉSEM MINDEN JÓ EMBERNEK		2009/03/29, 16:47:42 #: 2009031693 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Mariann Pájer: Re: Pajer Name Origin Hello! I'just now lokk this page, and I hope, you read my letter. My nane is Marianna Pájer. My grandfather was Konrád Pájer (He was born in Vencsellő, 1910) His parents: Borbála Vinnai, and Keresztély Pájer. He had 3 sisters'I think. His ount were Borbála and Anna (nickname's were "Pávi" and "Náni"), they went to America. My great-grandfather went America too, and he died in the coal mine in 1914. Mary was relatives my grendfether, I loked her photos (like a young girl) she was nice, and grandparent told me - they (Mary's) once time were to visit in Vencsellő. You can find any informations about our famili in the Roman Catholic Church, beacausein 1919 was a big fire, and the register of births were burnt. But you know well, my familiy went from Germany to Vencsellő. The legend the origin of family name is the next: our fathers were bajor's (Bavarian), and the this cold folksy/dialect pajor/pajer befor a long time ago. My gradparents told my in my cildhood - in the time is 1910-1914 in the village (Vencsellő) a lot of people went to America, but the contact braked down in the time of socializm. My grandparents has only one child, my father Gyula. I think, I can find some old photos, if you interest, I can try scanning them. I hope, you can answer. Marianna Pájer		2009/04/23, 15:28:44 #: 200904765 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Gerald Kisabeth: Re: Pajer Name Origin Dear Marianna Pajer, Hello this is Gerald Kisabeth. My posts are above as my grandmother was Pajer Borbala, daughter of Pajer Konrad. I am very sorry but I just now read your message. I would like to receive mot Pajer history news from you and possible old photos of Vencsello and the relatives. I hope to complete my Pajer Family History Book soon and would like to add your family and ancestors to the book. Thanks again and I am very sorry for taking so much time in replying to your message. Were do you live? I visited Vencsello in May 2009 but only for 2 days. I want to return in 2 yeras.		2009/12/10, 00:41:55 #: 200912357 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

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